User talk:Ifaigios/Archive 1

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Welcome
Hi, welcome to Ikariam! Thanks for your edit to the Slinger page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Jrooksjr (Talk) 12:35, 16 October 2009

New templates
I have created some new templates to (Hopefully) help you on the Unit / Ship change over (hopefully less typing over all for you):

I hope these help, so that you do not have to keep entering   Text   etc - If you think of others that I have missed let me know  --  17:28, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hit points and HitPoints both produce.
 * Armor and Armour both produce.
 * Size produces.
 * Class produces.
 * SpeedUS produces
 * Type produces
 * CargoS produces
 * Time produces July 27, 2024
 * Upkeep produces
 * All of these can take a parameter to be displayed in the tooltip as well.
 * TeXt produces
 * I have modified both Offense and Defense so that they do not display "- Level #" anymore so that you can use them to diplay the sword / shield icons in other locations that use them as well
 * 1 produces
 * 1 produces
 * 1 produces
 * 1 produces

Spelling
The names are currently spelled the same way they are in the games Ikipedia (on the .com servers).

Units


 * Hoplite
 * Steam Giant
 * Spearmen
 * Swordsman
 * Slinger
 * Archer
 * Sulfur Carabineers
 * Ram
 * Catapult
 * Mortar
 * Gyrocopter
 * Balloon-Bombardier
 * Cook
 * Doctor
 * Barbarian-Axe Swinger

Ships


 * Ram-Ship
 * Fire Ship
 * Paddle-Wheel-Ram
 * Ballista Ship
 * Catapult Ship
 * Mortar Ship
 * Diving Boat
 * Cargo Ship

Buildings


 * Town hall
 * Academy
 * Warehouse
 * Tavern
 * Palace
 * Governor's Residence
 * Museum
 * Trading port
 * Shipyard
 * Barracks
 * Town wall
 * Embassy
 * Trading post
 * Workshop
 * Hideout
 * Forester's House
 * Glassblower
 * Alchemist's Tower
 * Winegrower
 * Stonemason
 * Carpenter
 * Optician
 * Firework Test Area
 * Wine Press
 * Architect's Office
 * Temple

Researches

Seafaring


 * Carpentry
 * Deck Weapons
 * Ship Maintenance
 * Expansion
 * Foreign Cultures
 * Pitch
 * Market
 * Greek Fire
 * Counterweight
 * Diplomacy
 * Sea Charts
 * Paddle Wheel Engine
 * Mortar Attachment
 * Seafaring Future

Economy


 * Conservation
 * Pulley
 * Wealth
 * Wine culture
 * Improved resource gathering
 * Geometry
 * Architecture
 * Holiday
 * Culinary Specialities
 * Helping Hands
 * Spirit Level
 * Wine Cellars
 * Bureaucracy
 * Utopia
 * Economic Future

Science


 * Well Digging
 * Paper
 * Espionage
 * Polytheism
 * Ink
 * Invention
 * Cultural Exchange
 * Anatomy
 * Optics
 * Experiments
 * Mechanical Pen
 * Bird`s Flight
 * Letter Chute
 * Pressure Chamber
 * The Archimedic Principle
 * Scientific Future

Military


 * Dry-Dock
 * Maps
 * Professional Army
 * Siege
 * Code of Honor
 * Ballistics
 * Law of the Lever
 * Governor
 * Pyrotechnics
 * Logistics
 * Gunpowder
 * Robotics
 * Canon Casting
 * Militaristic Future

Do you play on a different group of servers? Are they spelled differently there? -- 20:53, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

So they did change the spellings on the Names on the .org servers? We had started a Manual of Styles (INCOMPLETE) on how we format tables, spell names, etc and  one of the things we said (again subject to change since it is not formalized) is that we would spell all Researches, Resources, Buildings, Units and Ships the same way that Gameforge does - so that people can copy / paste from the client over to the search window and can find their item easily, thus why the items are spelled in the plural, because that is how Gameforge has spelled it.

All of this was also taking into account that in the past, all servers (.com, .org, etc...) were using the same Names and Spellings at that time as well. If they no longer are doing this, then we need to work on our MOS (for short) to keep from having problems in the future. Please look over the MOS and make any comments, suggestions of change, etc on the talk page there so we can discuss it properly. -- 17:11, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Signature
Oh by the way, please try to remember to sign your posts on talk pages - so we know who made them. Just add  to the end of what you type when you are done and the wiki does the rest. -- 17:11, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Main Page
It refers to the number of active users working on the site (# of users active in the last 30 days) - there used to be another statement that said how many total users and 53 were still active but it was edited and not clarified -- I have now clarified the number - 23:26, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

New Image for Research (Tech Tree)
I have uploaded a new Tech-Tree image on Research, to reflect the changes in Patch 0.3.2, it however does NOT show what each research can do like the others did (ie 2% reduction in building material). I will see about adding that in later if I can (I am testing a trial program to make flow-charts to make the image. Look it over to make sure that the info is correct in how it connects the researches and then we can go from there. -- 22:54, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Research image
Which image do you prefer Long and Skinny or Short and Wide? -- 00:11, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Alliance (Guide)
Done -- 22:41, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Congrats
Congratulations, as of now you are a Administrator - You have been very active in removing vandalism, fixing table formats, answering forum questions, and much more - I had recently gave you the Rollback ability and thought I gave a explanation on it but it appears I did not click on save or something since I see no posting on it -

As an admin you will notice you can now Protect pages. Please use this sparingly - mainly if you protect a page make it so that registered users can edit / move the pages - use the Sysop protection only on critical pages (templates) and such - You also will see (on the history of pages) the ability to Rollback (this is the same as Undo but will undo many edits (by the same person that are made in a row)

If you need to undo 1 edit then use Undo - if the person made many edits in a row (on the same page) roll back will undo every edit the editor has done in a row until the wiki detects a change by another person, then it will stop undoing edits on that page.

-- 02:02, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I made your other log-in name IfaigiosGr into an Administrator as well - so that if you accidentally log in on that account you can still have Admin abilities. -- 21:18, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Barracks Units, Shipyard Ships, Alliances on Server pages

 * Barracks Units & Shipyard Ships

They are made in the Barracks, Shipyard and the Trading port - I tried calling them Land Units but some of them fly so they are not land, and they can't be Warships because of the Diving Boat. We had them called Units and Ships as they are called in the game, but other complained at that as well - so I went with what they are now (where they are made )


 * Alliances on Server pages

Yes, you can delete them - I was doing this in stages - I can't work on any 1 section too long, I get bored with it, so for a few days I delete Alliance on Server pages, work on documenting the templates on other days, and sometimes I work on new templates on other days.

-- 15:46, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

How to make a category be a link and not a category
To make a category be a link (so you can see it in the normal page area and not down in the category section - just add a colon or  :  before the name category like this  and it will show up as this Category:Alliances or you can then add a pipe to make it show as a different name  like this   to show as this  Alliances on Server --  16:00, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Server pages
The pages that are Server/ /Alpha, Beta, Gamma, etc ... You can delete the Alpha, Beta, Gamma pages yes but not the Server// pages - I want to combine those pages with their proper category ie Server/us would be merged with Category:US servers and so forth  --  19:14, November 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * I take it back - we do need to remove the server pages as well (and category pages related to them), because they all need to be reworked when / if we start re-taking alliance pages, otherwise they are not needed -- 19:50, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Server sub pages such as Server/us, Server/uk etc all can be deleted a (as well as sub-pages of those sub-pages) and the categories for the Countries and Languages need to be deleted (they all need to be redone as 1 page (at a later time if we decide to re-start taking alliance pages) that is the only reason for the Category:Spain servers and Category:Spanish servers. No alliance - no need to categories them by language and country  --   20:06, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Deprecated categories
The deprecated categories are ones I was renaming (we can't move categories) so we have to manually go to each image and change their category to the new proper category


 * The one marked as Deprecated Client images ( Category:Images/Client ) needs to be moved to the one marked Category:Client images
 * The one marked as Deprecated Flag images ( Category:Images/Flags ) needs to be moved to the one marked Category:Flag images

Basically I am trying to remove them from a sub-page of the Category:Images to their own page - 19:50, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

I think you removed the wrong listing from the MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar - we should be keeping the ones that do not say deprecated - and relocating the images from the deprecated category to the non-deprecated category and then removing the deprecated category -- 02:34, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Take things in strides (sections)
Do not try to do it all at once, there is just too much to do for the few of us, I tried that once and got burnt out on the wiki back in 2008, have fun with the game, work on the wiki in your free time, do not make it a job or chore, it will be here --  20:59, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

You go girl!
I can see you have a lot of edits. That's great! Just be careful and don't burn out. It happened to me. That's why I only have a couple of edits over the past few weeks. It will be easier if you make a checklist of the things you want to improve and write it down somewhere, like your user page. That way we can help you get it all done. If you need my help, just send me a message. rmedic 23:40, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Being an administrator we can go to Myhome page and edit the community coner (lower right coner) and use that as your project's page -- 00:12, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, now they are both in my page and in the myhome page
 * You did not have to list it in both - I was just letting you know we can use that space as well (if dont want to edit your user page alot) -- 00:56, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you all for your advice! I'll try to follow it :) I'm still exploring the features of the wiki and that's why i'm so active these days! Ifaigios 23:47, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

margin=0
Just to let you know, when a setting belongs inside of the style=" settings ;" they use the colon not the equal sign such as  not margin=0. The settings that use = are the ones that are stand alone and are outside of the style= such as   which can be border=1 as well, when you are just using a single setting. If you use more than 1 setting, such as borders 4 sides then you must use the quotes as in border="1 2 1 2".


 * Side note : : produces the same effect as.
 * This is why I have been removing margin:auto; on some of the charts, that I did not think should be centered, based on what they displayed.

-- 15:24, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It could be the different browsers (example class="darktable zebra" on IE 8 show the stripe as a gray color but on Mozilla Firefox 3.55 it is that brown color.

align=center does not work on Mozilla Firefox 3.55 (have to use the margin:auto; or text ) but does work on IE 8.

I have not checked to see how Google's Chrome or Apple's Safari do with these settings, but so far each browser (in general) has a command that does not work on them but does on the others and such. -- 16:20, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I just did a test on Academy using Google's Chrome and  causes the table to be center ed - remember each setting (parameter) inside of style must end in a semi-colon or it will not (example style="margin auto ") --  17:51, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Unit / Ship pages
I think the charts on the individual Units and Ships pages should not be centered but be sure to add   on the outside of the settings (borders that separate the data, inside of the tables, are not appearing correctly unless that setting is there) -  18:08, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

WSM and WSO
I just now made 2 new 🇼🇸 WSM and WSO that link to Workshop instead of the Warehouse for the units and ships pages. -- 18:57, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Research Tree
-- 15:14, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) I was using a Trial copy of that program so I can not remove the watermark until it is a non-trial version. (so no mater what the watermark will be there if I can fix the other things)
 * 2) I can not make anymore changes to the image at the moment, because the trial copy only lasted for 7-days. I will see if I can download another copy and it still work to let me make any changes.
 * 3) I guess I was thinking of the Increased production buildings for some reason when I put 2% on the Reduction buildings (that was totally my bad).
 * 4) I copied the text from the in-game Ikipedia's text calling the research "The Archimedes Principle" and "Birds Flight" in the text and called them "Dive-Bombardiers".
 * 5) The Ikipedia did not say that Expansion also allows to attack or trade with players from other groups of islands.

None of the information came from the Units section of the Ikipedia, it all came from the Research text, because that is where I was doing the work. This is from the Lambda server info:


 * Field of Research: 	Science
 * Name: 	The Archimedic Principle
 * Description: 	We have managed to let a machine fly! Now even the sky isn`t a limit anymore! We can let huge balloons fly over the heads of our enemies and throw fire or bee-hives at them from above!
 * Allows: Building Bombardiers in the Barracks
 * Current research time: 	285D 11h 44m 46s (444,000)
 * Next research in this field: 	Scientific Future
 * Requirement(s):


 * * Pressure Chamber (Science)

They may have fixed a few more spellings or names - but at the time I was making that chart that is what it said (I used the text from the game word for word) other than my mistake on the 2% vs 1% or the total % for reduction costs (2% 6% 14%)

At moment I can not change the file (the trial left some hidden files or such - and when I download a new version - it tells me I have to buy it before I can do any more changes ) -- 16:02, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

The only alternative is maybe you can download the file - and I send you may (data file it created - it is only 191 kb) and maybe you can make the changes --  16:05, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Go to FileFactory -- 17:36, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

When you run the program and load the data file - to make a JPG / PNG / etc file - click on either Export or Save as  then choose the file type  (if I remember correctly it shows at 75% - change this to 100% before you actualy make the file - feel free to experiment to see why ) then you get a file you can upload to replace my image, and you can edit the page to show you made the file instead of mine in the template Self. -- 17:51, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Unit Upgrades - Just Curious
Why did you decide to take out the minimum-level column? (It looks like you got all the costs upgraded, right, or does that still need help?) -- Corgi 19:18, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick reply. :) Corgi 19:48, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Nbsp's
The & nbsp ; is caused by the Rich Text Editor in place of the space and is not needed unless the text is long and you do not want the 2 words broken up at the end of the page (nbsp = non breaking space). I have been adding the __NOWYSIWYG__ so that it will manualy disable the Text editor for those who do not turn it off but it has to just about be in every section that has a table we do not want them to use the editor in. I can petition the Wikia staff to turn off the Rich Text Editor by default, if the wikia as a whole wants it turned off. But, I do not feel we need to do that just yet - it is mainly caused by the anon editors since they have no preference settings in general.

As to your question of removing them - I would not go out of my way to remove them - it is just a space either way, but if you are editing that page and see them then yes, at that time, go ahead and remove them. -- 15:21, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry and fixed
I disabled The Rich text editing.-- D W   SIG  21:16, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Moving pages
You should never copy and paste pages on wiki. You should move them with the move tool. It also moves history, talk and makes redirects to that page. If you have any questions, please leave me a message. rmedic 13:55, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

As a sysop, when you try to move a page to a existing page (like a redirect or such) usualy you will get a message saying that page exists and then you will get the option to delete the page that is preventing the move. But I will sometimes disagree with Rmedic sometimes I want a clean slate (no history or anything) so sometimes copy / paste is ok (especialy if the old pages are out of date or no longer pertain to the current page due to changes in the game) but that is my oppinion only. -- 16:02, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Futures research
They are giving more than .02 (2%) for level 2 and higher? Then for now we will have to manually change all of the pages unless a formula is found then we can use the formula. I do not have any Futures researched yet to check to confirm or deny anything (will not have them any time soon yet either). -- 15:22, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Look here and see if this is correct for the 1st 6 levels of Economic Futures. -- 18:43, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I am going to transfer the new score section over to the Research and there is a new parameter (actually its an old parameter that was never used for the normal researches) named level - for use only with Futures researches - I will set it up to go to level 20 or higher (so that we will not have to worry with it for a LONG time). -- 21:57, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

New formula implemented and in use on all of the Futures (Level 1 should not be affected from the looks but level's 2 - 10 should now be going up using your X +.03 formula) - all of the non futures should not be affected but you might want to check a few randomly to make sure I did not accidentally affect them and check  a few random  futures to make sure they are correct -- if so then I have the formula set up in the template all the way up to level 30. -- 00:33, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

el.Ikariam
Kewl, and congrats on starting the new wiki.

Feel free to use any and all Templates, Images, Text, etc, ... from our wiki -- The only thing Wikia asks of us is if we do use other info from other sites (Wikia or otherwise) we must give credit showing we got the info from that site - for copyright reasons so you might want to copy some of the Licenses I acquired and modified to better suit that (most of the licenses are for images (they are the most Copy-protected item on wiki's ) and I modified From Wikia and From Wikimedia mainly for images, Wikia  and Wikipedia mainly for non images, so that you can give the Wikimedia project (Wikia, Wikipedia, Wictionary, etc, ... ) credit easier. Screen-shots technically are copyrighted by Gameforge but I made C-Gameforge to hopefully cover that issue as well.

That is one of my projects, that I slowly have been working on - the Images! (putting proper licenses on them) that is why I have not yet been deleting any, untill I can give notice to the up-loader to put a proper license or such on the image before I remove it. -- 15:32, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Off hand why is it el.Ikariam and not gr.Ikariam for the Greek wikia ? -- 15:36, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, I see why gr is for the country Greece and el is the ISO 639 language code for the Greek language's -- 15:38, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I went ahead (since I have the page watchlisted) put your new wiki up to be linked to all of the wikis we are connected to - you may never use them but if you do they will be there for you to connect easily.


 * gr.ikariam to ar.ikariam (Arabic) - Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Libya, etc ...
 * gr.Ikariam to de.Ikariam (German)
 * gr.Ikariam to Ikariam (English)
 * gr.Ikariam to es.Ikariam (Spanish)
 * gr.Ikariam to fi.Ikariam (Finnish
 * gr.Ikariam to fr.Ikariam (French)
 * gr.ikariam to he.ikariam (Hebrew) - Israel
 * gr.Ikariam to hu.Ikariam (Hungarian)
 * gr.ikariam to lt.ikariam (Lithuanian)
 * gr.Ikariam to nl.Ikariam (Dutch)
 * gr.Ikariam to pl.Ikariam (Polish)
 * gr.ikariam to pt.ikariam (Portuguese) - Portugal and Brazil
 * gr.ikariam to ru.ikariam (Russian)
 * gr.Ikariam to sr.Ikariam (Serbian)
 * gr.Ikariam to sv.Ikariam (Swedish)
 * gr.ikariam to vi.ikariam (Vietnamese)
 * gr.ikariam to zh.ikariam (Simple Chinese) - People's Republic of China (Mainland China), Singapore, and the United Nations.
 * gr.ikariam to zh-hant.ikariam (Traditional Chinese) - Republic of China or Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau.

-- 16:10, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Interwiki links
You don not have to use http:// urls for interwiki links    and   will directly connect  without the interwiki linking and when interwiki linking is working it will be   and   to make these links w:c:el.Ikariam and el: for the Main Page and w:c:el.Ikariam:Χρήστης:IfaigiosGr and el:Χρήστης:IfaigiosGr to link to your user page --  16:31, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

You can use pipes to change the text of the link  and   --  16:33, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Interwiki links on Ikariam are now working to the same places we are linked to. -- 15:58, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Just remember, when translating over, to swap the en / el links (wording) -- on your wiki you do not need el links but but do need en links. -- 17:00, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Ohh yeah, you can export / import the template Alt-Lang and sub templates over to your wiki - but will need to re-translate them still. -- 17:03, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

User page
Yes, by all means please do correct my page - I noticed that the translator had moved the Bureaucrat and English links next to each other (rearranged the order), but I did not know if that was correct or incorrect, so I left it as it was - but yes please do fix the links or wording on my page to how you think it should be --  17:08, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Greek Ikariam Sidebar
Since you can do both English and Greek (and might prefer to keep it in English) you can make a sidebar for the EN language (basicaly it will be 2 sidebars) - look here for what I mean. -- 17:32, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, that may not be what you need - if it is only for the toolbox section. -- 17:35, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

New wiki setup
Heh, I forgot to respond about suggestions / tips on starting a new wiki. The main suggestion or tip is to work in sections. do NOT try to setup the entire wiki all at once or it will overwhelm you


 * 1) Maybe 1st work on the PAGE content and add Templates and Images as you need them
 * 2) Then work on the MediaWiki files such as Sidebar, Common.css with Common.js etc, ...
 * 3) I would work on Categories last.

-- 20:13, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Images and cache
Sometime when you change a image (in templates, on pages, upload newer version, etc) the cache and you will not immediately see the changes, sometimes it is the cache on your browser and you have to clear it (on most browsers it is CTRL-F5), if it is wikia's server cache - you just have to wait for it to catch up before you notice the changes - When I go to el.Ikariam I see the same image as on our wikia. -- 21:45, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

When I go to w:c:el.Ikariam and look in the top left corner I see this image on your wiki. -- 23:55, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you need to reset your browser's cache and the maybe rebooting your computer -- 00:03, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

How to clear browser cache's
Note: After saving, you might have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes.


 * Internet Explorer: hold down the Ctrl key and click the Refresh or Reload button, or press Ctrl+F5.
 * Firefox: hold down the Shift key while clicking Reload; alternatively press Ctrl+F5 or Ctrl-Shift-R.
 * Opera users have to clear their caches through Tools→Preferences
 * Konqueror and Safari users can just click the Reload button.
 * Chrome: press Ctrl+F5 or Shift+F5

-- 21:50, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Templates and table classes
Everyone can export any and all pages, but only admins can import and with you as being an admin on the Greek wiki you can import into the Greek wiki. But with classes (they are not pages that can be exported / imported) you will have to copy / paste the portions you want from common.css the classes you want in to your common.css.

I have them labeled in the common.css file (they start with a . -- 23:31, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Sidebar
If I did it correctly - the sidebar should now show up in both the Greek and English language settings (both will be in the English language) but should look the same. -- 19:12, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

On the Greek Ikariam you can copy the MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar settings over to MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar/en and then the same side bar will show up in both languages - and if you do not like having 2 accounts you can get rid of the 2nd. As you can see in the Recent Changes I have copied our bar over to the different language settings (They are in the English language) of the wikis that we are connected to so that if they log in here in their language setting they will still see all of the same options as the English setting. -- 23:25, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Futures Research points
Are the Futures research now giving .02 (2%) for level 2 and higher? I have seen a posting saying that they are all back to giving .02 so I reverted the Research back to showing .02 - if it is not correct then please undo my changes. -- 16:04, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back -- Removal of Admin status -- Embassy -- Sidebar

 * 1) Yeah I did notice that you had been absent for a while (I figured burn out set in some - with this wiki and the Greek wiki) - Welcome back.
 * 2) To be safe - I want to wait a few days before I remove admin status from your 2nd account - just to make sure all goes well.
 * 3) On the Embassy page I removed the information on how to join an alliance without an Embassy because it was brought to my attention that it was a bug (and people could be banned for doing it) - So I read the information about how to do it, and the steps tell you to totally bypass the embassy page (since you do not have one) and that is not how the game was supposed to work (thus technically by Gameforge is illegal.
 * 4) Also adding the language code to the end is how you can modify the MediaWiki:Monaco-toolbox/  (This is the portion below the sidebar in the blue-ish color)

-- 16:15, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

The joining an alliance without an Embassy is not a feature listed as a feature in patch 0.3.1 - Not all bugs are pointed out by Gameforge but that does not make them not a bug -- The ideal of joining an alliance has always been (originally) to:


 * 1) Build and Embassy (so that you have 1 alliance point to send request -- They changed this aspect of joining so that you do not use up alliance points to join an alliance. - but did not say you do not need the embassy).
 * 2) Use the Search option to find the alliance you wish to join.
 * 3) Send in-game Message (application) to the alliance.
 * 4) Get accepted or declined by the alliance.

This has always been the way from 2008 - when I first started playing -- Someone else found out you can go around the Embassy and send a message to the alliance - and then they send you the acceptance letter (this was NOT the original intentions of Gameforge) thus making it a bug for the time being -- If I see that Gameforge is ok with this, we can un-delete (or copy from the old page and paste back on new page) it later. -- 15:34, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

I have sent in the question to see if it is a bug or not to the GO named J Constantine -- awaiting a reply. -- 22:32, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

I got a reply - and it is not the same reply as to being a bug or not as what they told you (go figure)

-- 04:35, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Your 2nd account
Is everything working out with the MediaWiki:Sidebar/en settings on the Greek Ikariam wiki? If so, should I go ahead and remove the admin privileges from User:IfaigiosGr? -- 16:48, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I agree - I would not maintain a language bar for every language there is on the Greek wiki just yet -- the only reason why I have the different language bars is because of copy / paste and even with that, I am not updating every bar with every little change we make -- every once in a while when I think about it -- I will copy our main bar (English) over to the other languages and will probably maintain the Greek and Finnish language bars (only because of you and Ilkea) -- 23:57, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Greek Ikariam
If you want to take time to work on the Greek language wikia - feel free to do so -- you do not have to stay here 24 / 7 - this wiki is 90 - 95% complete (mainly little stuff here and there - but the main stuff is here for all to access) - do not mistake me for trying to run you to the other wiki -- I am grateful for all of the work you are doing here - but at the same time I know you have a lot more work to do over there  that I unfortunately can not help as much with as I can not speak Greek in the slightest -- But if you do want to work on it more, feel free to do so --  22:16, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

New Features

 * 1) Special:NewFiles has always been apart of wikia but you had to go to the Special:SpecialPages to see it -- I manually added it to the MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar so that all can see the new images that have been recently uploaded.
 * 2) Special:WikiStickies went active about 1 or maybe 2 weeks ago (It is NEW).
 * 3) Special:NewWikiBuilder must be new -- I do not know where you have seen this at.  The only place I have seen anything to do with new wiki's, was at the top of the page above the user's photo where it says Create a new wiki using the special word w:Special:CreateWiki.

-- 15:19, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Miracles, Temples, and Wonders
Hmm, umm, I think we goofed on renaming Wonders into Miracles -- After closer looking at the Ikipedia in the game -- We use Temples to make priests that pray to the Wonders on the Island and when enough faith is generated the Wonder grants us a Miracle. So the Main pages and templates should be called Wonders and what we used to call Blessing is now called Miracle --  06:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Do you not love Gameforge as I do -- We already have re-done all the pages as Miracles and we do have Wonder as a redirect to Miracle. I realize that the pages that I do uses the US English language as I type them out, but if I see a word that is slightly off in spelling, I check it with the UK English dictionary to see if it is in the Queen's English, if so I leave it and add it to the US English dictionary so that it will not show up as misspelled later on when I check again. So I am actually proposing we leave things as is (at least for now) since Wonder and Miracle do lead to the same page. -- 19:17, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Bug in the in-game Ikipedia
I found a problem in the in-game Ikipedia! If you have a building like a Carpenter that reduces the costs of a building, the Ikipedia does  show that reduction! It only shows the reduction from Researches. -- 15:00, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Alt-Lang on Greek Ikariam wiki
I have uploaded all of the flag (images) over on the Greek Ikariam wiki that were needed to let the Alt-Lang template work (along with the Licenses on the images that I know for sure that apply, without showing all of the errors saying file not found - but I did not copy over the actual template for the licenses since they should be translated over to Greek (but they do have the license on the images - so no one should be able to say anything - I do not think) -- I am adding the  parameter to the pages that I have added Alt-Lang to so that the categories do not show up at the moment (since they are red links as well) -- I hope you did not mind me doing this. --  20:28, December 29, 2009 (UTC)