Talk:Technocracy

Formula question
Are we sure the formula is correct ?

Because when I use my numbers, the result does not match the number I see in game. I see +22.3165% increase rather than +23%. Jeahra 16:32, May 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am 100% positive on these formulas.
 * Which formula are you talking about? Neither one come out to 22% nor 23% -- Helping hands gains 20% more production and your Research points are increased by 5%.
 * -- 00:39, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I meant the Research Points formula. My numbers are:
 * 872 scientists
 * Science future level 2 (18% = 2 + 4 + 8 + 2*2)
 * Technocracy (5%)
 * Using the formula (1080.408 = 872 * 1,05 * 1,18) or (1072.56 = 872 * (1 + ( 5 + 18) / 100)) gives a different result than what I see on my research adviser (1066.6). Am I making an error, or the is adviser wrong? Jeahra 07:59, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you sure you do not have Corruption in your cities ? Warrior fr 08:40, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * 872 scientists
 * 0.18 (18%) from Futures level 2 = ( 2 + 4 + 8 + 2 + 2 )
 * 0.05 (5%) from Technocracy
 * 0.23% (18% + 5%) Total increase
 * 872 * 1.23 =
 * As Warrior fr asked - You sure there is no corruption and you do have Technocracy as your government? I if yes (no corruption and do have technocracy) then I am going to say the game display is wrong for the government at this time.
 * I am now a Democracy so I am not getting percent (%) increases. I get for each CT I own and my numbers come out correctly.
 * When I did have Techno, pre-patch 0.5.0 the numbers did come out perfectly as well.
 * -- 13:14, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * -- 13:14, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * -- 13:14, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Doh! Good call, I do have corruption (8.33% - yes thats 12 towns) in one of my academy towns. This affects 134 scientists, and my idea of how corruption should effect the outcome is flawed.
 * 134 * 1.23 * 91.67% = Incorrect. It needs to give
 * 738 * 1.23 =
 * Total =
 * This "issue" came about when I was checked if Democracy wasnt a better choice and couldnt get the +5% bonus to fit. Jeahra 19:28, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you have corruption from anarchy, then all 12 towns should be in anarchy, 30 minutes per each town you own, 1 town alone should not have corruption, because you can not build a higher level Palace/GR. -- 20:25, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am re-reading the boards about Technocracy and now I think the formula I gave you (on this talk page) is wrong and the formula I had posted on the main page was right. -- 20:54, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Using your original number of 872 scientists
 * 872 scientists
 * x 1.18 (18% cumulative increase) from Futures level 2 = ( 2 + 4 + 8 + 2 + 2 )
 * = from researches
 * x 1.05 (5% multiplicative increase) from Technocracy (Technocracy is multiplicative and not cumulative as I used it up above)
 * = after Technocracy is figured in


 * Now lets figure in your corruption numbers
 * 134 corrupted scientists
 * x 1.18 (18% cumulative increase) from Futures level 2 = ( 2 + 4 + 8 + 2 + 2 )
 * = from researches
 * x 1.05 (5% multiplicative increase) from Technocracy
 * = after Technocracy is figured in
 * x .9167 (8.33% - corruption decrease)
 * = after corruption
 * 738 uncorrupted scientists
 * x 1.18 (18% cumulative increase) from Futures level 2 = ( 2 + 4 + 8 + 2 + 2 )
 * = from researches
 * x 1.05 (5% multiplicative increase) from Technocracy
 * = after Technocracy is figured in
 * + from corrupted scientists
 * = which rounds up to  which is what I think you said your Research Adviser was saying you should have.
 * = after Technocracy is figured in
 * + from corrupted scientists
 * = which rounds up to  which is what I think you said your Research Adviser was saying you should have.


 * The formula I had posted on the main page was correct and with your corruption all is correct! -- 21:16, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Problem solved and thanks for the doing the maths ! Warrior fr 00:49, May 28, 2012 (UTC)