Talk:Research/Archive 1

Changing lines
Text says "free to change". Does that mean you don't lose the points that have been accumulated towards the discovery you defer? Robin Patterson 11:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * you dont loose any research points by changing research lines unless you have enough to actualy complete research in the line - ie if you had 4,000 research points and were researching the seafaring line - and changed to military line - if the military line you changed to needed 4,100 points you will remain in the research mode untill you gained the 100 points to coplete that research - but if the new line needed 3,900 points to complete, you would complete that research and would have 100 points still being applied toward the next in the series or to the new line of research if you change it again -- ( Morph on Ikariam.com | Contribs | Talk ) -- 17:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Do the 4,000 points that finished the research count towards future researches?or are they lost forever?Scorpianato 09:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * they count to the future research afaik 87.177.214.120 08:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Confusing display
Worth mentioning that the page where you change research is showing you percentages of the tree that is complete, not the percentage of the technology that is being researched. Thus if you have 4 out of the 12 possible techs, it will show as 33%. It does not mean that you are 33% done with the current tech in that tree, as you might expect.

This is a completely useless display but there you have it. It is even more useless because obviously the research time is back-loaded so that more advanced techs take much longer, so your advancement is disproportionate. You get to 50% relatively quickly, and then getting the last 50% takes forever. So these progress bars really tell you nothing.

It can cause confusion especially when the line of research you are pursuing is dependent on a tech in another tree, it automatically starts researching the technologies that it needs outside of the tree. Then you get something that looks like this:

Seafaring (Pitch) 33% Economy (Professional Army) 30% <-- Military needed for Culinary specialty Science (Professional Army) 21% <-- Military needed for Invention Military (Professional Army) 15% <-- actual tree for Professional Army

A normal person would look at this and think that there are three trees researching the same thing, but some are farther along than others. So you might pick Economy since it has the most progress for the same tech. In actuality, it doesn't matter which one you pick, because the percentage has nothing to do with the research. Once the tech is finished, however, it will continue in the selected tree. -- 21:45, November 3, 2008